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Post by redshade on Oct 21, 2018 22:34:03 GMT
Hi Jesse, I see that you replied to me just an hour or so ago about a post I made about the above subject a few weeks ago. It seemed to me to be a personal rebuke about my aforementioned opinions. Said thread has been locked so I am opening this new one to answer your admonitions.
I'd just like to say that I am in no way trying to be contentious or provocative or trying to belittle your views.
The fact that I call, for instance, Alan Class Comics reprints is because that is what we have always called them in the UK. I myself have been doing so since the 60s and so too does the UK Comics Guide.
I am not disputing your (or CBCS's or Tim B's) definition. You are entitled to your opinions and I am not challenging that interpretation.
One always uses the vocabulary that one learned as a child and so reprint is a word I use perfectly innocently with no predisposition to cause contention.
Cheers.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 22, 2018 1:11:05 GMT
Redshade, my intention was to educate you, and others, as to why "reprints" is erroneous. Many people grew up calling them reprints. Exactly why, I don't know. I knew the difference between a reprint and an edition as a teen. Personally, I blame laziness, arrogance and ignorance. Laziness and arrogance are areas that nothing can be done about, but ignorance is an area that can be addressed. By educating people on the proper terminology, ignorance can no longer be a cause. I do know that your vocabulary skills are not stuck on what you learned in your childhood. We have had many discussions and you are a well versed individual. Now that you are educated on the usages and definitions of "reprint" and "edition", and continue to use "reprint", I must assume that you have chosen to reject their proper definitions and usages. But ignorance (not knowing for lack of education) can no longer be a reason why you continue in this manner. You say that your use is innocent and that you do not mean to cause contention, yet you keep posting your position on it. However, now that you know the proper definitions and usages, using them incorrectly is intentional. That is hardly innocent. And quite honestly, whatever you decide to call them is up to you. I just want you to know that it is incorrect to do so. I had hoped that you could be persuaded by logic and education to make an effort to change. Is that hope in vain? Age is never a reason to not learn something new. However, it is a reason for not remembering where you left your wallet.
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Post by redshade on Oct 22, 2018 1:53:06 GMT
Jesse, I was trying to offer an olive branch, I don't know why you are being so belligerent and condescending. "You say tomayto and I say tomarto". Are you are denying me my ethnic heritage by not allowing me to speak as my ancestors spoke? And your intimation that my continued use of a word is lazy, ignorant and arrogant is tantamount to showing your own questionable prescriptive dictatorial attitudes.
And your insinuation that you were trying to "educate" me in the usage of the English Language beggars belief.
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Post by Jesse on Oct 22, 2018 2:09:35 GMT
Redshade, I was trying to be neither belligerent nor condescending. This is obviously an issue we disagree upon. So be it.
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Post by redshade on Oct 22, 2018 2:14:58 GMT
"Alan Class comics that feature Marvel Silver Age stories on the their covers are HOT! The top three are Creepy Worlds #32, Sinister Tales #23 and Secrets of the Unknown #38 and the values are rising fast on these! Creepy Worlds #33-38 are also in high demand. The later Daredevil and maybe Avengers reprints less so but certainly the earlier Marvel Silver reprints are much sought after". From The Comic Book price Guide For Great Britain.
"Almost all comics published by Alan Class are reprints of U.S. comics from the 1950s to very early 1970s. Almost none of them have dates in the actual comics, so all dates given here are estimates". From the Grand Comics Database (USA).
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Post by Jesse on Oct 22, 2018 2:27:48 GMT
The fact that these editions contain material that is reprinted is not in dispute and is irrelevant to this discussion. If you still fail to see the distinction, I do not know how to explain it any plainer than what has been written.
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Post by redshade on Oct 22, 2018 2:35:47 GMT
I concur Jesse that we should be able to have an adult debate and agree to disagree upon a said subject rather than "pulling rank" and banning people for not being in accordance with one's own opinions.
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Post by KenW on Oct 22, 2018 8:18:57 GMT
I don't ban people on-the-fly. I banned that former member because he was belligerent and rude and I won't accept that from anyone.
I locked that thread not because of his ramblings, but because that initial post should have remained as a statement and not a discussion. Like I've said at least three times on this board: Those are the rules to define the difference between Editions and Reprints.
As an aside, I know Duncan McAlpine personally from Stateside Comics days .. like myself, he's British .. unlike myself, he's 'fixed' into his head that all comic books worldwide are the same and if published outside the U.S. are merely reprints. He's wrong.
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Post by redshade on Oct 23, 2018 6:51:11 GMT
Wow! Stateside Comics, that must be 30 years ago now. I remember I was none too impressed with their postage methods.
If I remember correctly they were in Barnet which was very apposite given that one could pop in anytime and always be sure of a trim.
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